Yes, it is still justified to prosecute elderly Holocaust criminals. The justice system exists to acknowledge, both, the victim and the criminal. The purpose is not for the punishment of the body but of the mind that committed the crime and also the life that never got to live. For as long as his mind and memory is still intact, he is obligated to serve time for his wrongdoings. To let the criminal go without a trial would be to ignore the millions of Jews that suffered at his command. Time and age does not erase the pain nor does it shed the blood off of their hands.
I too say an elderly Holocaust criminal should be prosecuted. I also fully agree with Ishrat's statement (which is well said, I might add)especially the lines, "For as long as his mind and memory is still intact, he is obligated to serve time for his wrongdoings. To let the criminal go without a trial would be to ignore the millions of Jews that suffered at his command."
Once someone commits a crime they must do the time for it. In this legal system it is imperative criminals pay for their deeds. Age is indeed no excuse. Just because the criminal is elderly, appears benign, and faces impending death does not mean they shouldn't go to jail. As a matter of fact, let them rot in a cold, lonesome cell for their crimes against relatively innocent people.
I'm pretty wishy-washy with this question because I cannot take a stance. At one stand point I would think that, yes they have commit crimes and they should atone for it, but then I also think about the circumstances of Germany those days. In many cases it was kill or be killed, and I would assume it'd be worse for the Nazi party, did all of them really want to kill the mass amount of people they had to kill--is that why they dehumanized the the Jewish so they would not feel too guilty? Then, did they end up feeling guilty and atoning later on with the time realizing their actions? Then there's also the fact that of, most of them are really old they're going to die soon anyways most probably. So I don't know if we should put them in or not because I cannot take a stance.
Yes they are still worthwhile to get punishment even if they are old. I agree with both of them. As they said, everybody should know that the justice system still exists. Just because they are old doesn't mean they would get away with the harsh behavior to Jews. We all should remember that Laws are equal for everybody regardless race, gender and age. Somebody can come up with It wasn't their fault, Hitler is the one came up with this. But as a matter of fact, Hitler couldn't able to do all of them without their help. Therefore everybody is the same guilty and they should get punishment for these even if they are old. At the same time it would set an example to others that none can get away from the justice system. They always would end up getting punishment for their crimes.
Yes, as I had stated earlier in class. Age does not excuse the murder of an innocent man. The holocaust criminals deprived people of their life and it is time for them to be deprived of their life. I completely agree with Ishrat's viewpoint where she had stated that not doing a trial of the criminal would only allow all those Jewish victims to die without justice. We would only be ignorant and naive to allow such heinous crimes be slipped away due to age and allow millions of Jews to die in vain.
The hunting for Nazi criminals is like a race against time. As we live in a society where justice can only be brought through relevant documents and living witnesses, it is nearly impossible to bring them to justice. A trial literally does not make any sense anymore. You aren't really bringing 'justice' to these men because they are already old. Many of them are alone and are waiting to die. Isn't the purpose of administrating death penalties to murderers is to stop them from living their lives and regret what they have done? They have already lived their lives and escaped the harsh justice of their crimes, quite frankly, they are not going to learn anything. It is important to realize the gravity of concern of those affected but we cant waver from the principles of law. Otherwise it would lose all credibility.
Ofcourse it is still worthwhile to prosecute elderly Holocuast criminals. Just becuase they are old does not mean that we should pitty them. I highly doubt that they showed any mercy on anyone tht wa too old or too young when they committed their crimes. They were able to live while everyone else was being condemned for their actions. They deprives jews of living their lives freely, and succeeded in getting away with it. However much of their lives are left should be taken away. No crime should go unpunished. Some people might say that they have to live their whole lives with this and they might feel terrible for doing it, isn't that punishment enough? No it isn't, what if they are proud of the fact they did what they did and happy they got away with it. There is no difference between a crime committed yesterday and a crime commited 70 years ago, punishment needs to be administered. Especially a crime of this historical and racial magnitude. We need to try to serve as much justice for the jews who died by bringing their killers to justice, no matter if it is in 1945 or 2013. They have to pay for their crimes, just like everone else who has ever committed a crime, especially during the Holocuast.
Now looking at the whole situation again, I hold a different point of view than I held in class. At first I thought, "what's the point of prosecuting them?" Then, I came to understand that age doesn't erase the multitude of the crime no matter what. Whether it was done 2 years ago or 40 years ago, the objective fact that you have hurt innocent beings on this planet will never change. Especially to the victims, the truth will never change because they know exactly what it is. In the eyes of the law, it is proper for victims to be given justice, and age should not block that justice from being served. Plus, if prosecutors were to not indict the Holocaust criminals, they would be discriminating too which is immoral. Discrimination doesn't solve any problem and is not moral. Figures of law and politics, ought to not discriminate. Therefore, I think it is proper to prosecute the elderly Holocaust criminals.
I agree with Fairooz in the changing of perspective from what was held in class. Understanding the whole scenario of the actions taken by a Holocaust criminal does not change the wrong that was done whether it was done 7 years ago or 70 years ago. Murder is not equivalent to the actions that were taken against the Jewish community in that time of history. That elderly Holocaust criminal took part in a genocide that took the live of an estimated 11 million innocent people, with nearly 6 million of Jewish faith. Ishrat's words stating that "time and age does not erase the pain nor does it shed the blood off of their hands" sums up the fact that no matter what happens, history can not be erased, nor the doings of a Holocaust criminal. Therefore, I also believe that it is proper to prosecute an elderly Holocaust criminal.
I agree with Jasmine along with many other of my classmates. At first when the question was presented to me, whether a man who committed murder at the age of 17 and is now 93 should be prosecuted, I agreed that he should not be prosecuted. However, I have a different perspective after reading the article and truly giving it some thought. A murder is a murder whether it happened 5, 10 or 50 years ago. Time does not erase one’s actions and those who commit a crime must face the consequences sooner or later. Criminals should not be above the law because their crime happened decades ago. So when asked whether it is still worthwhile prosecuting elderly holocaust criminals, it is justified and it should be done. To this day we still have survivors of the holocaust who still remember every aspect of their painful past and they deserve the justice while they can still get it. Holocaust criminals deserve to be prosecuted because they have committed one of the worst crimes in history; they took part in genocide which claimed the lives of millions. If we do not prosecute these ruthless criminals what message does that give? That a crime of such magnitude will be ignored because of time, that’s only forgetting the victims of the Holocaust, which is not right. They were innocent people who were targeted and endured unimaginable terror, the few years left that Nazi war criminals will serve in prison does not come close to the punishment they truly deserve.
Yes, it is still worthwhile to prosecute elderly Holocaust criminals. Oftentimes, most people think that it is useless to do so because they consider that since the person is old they will not be around much longer and it was a crime that was committed such a long time ago. However, what most fail to acknowledge is that age and time are factors being used as an excuse. Age nor time should be used as an excuse because that does not expunge the pain that resulted from ones actions. As long as the person is still aware of what they have done, they should be obligated to serve the time for their wrongdoings. This is the only way justice will be acknowledged.
It is worthwhile prosecuting the elderly Holocaust criminals. Even though they are really old and are probably going to die soon does not mean they should be given a get out of jail free card. They have committed crimes against humanity, crimes against millions and it is not fair to the ones who suffered the Holocaust to know that the people who had no mercy for them are getting mercy just because of age. The only way to give the people who suffered justice is to punish these criminals. Age is not enough to let these criminals free.
imprisonment serves two purposes. One being to separate the criminals from the rest of society to stagnate and halt any further crimes being perpetrated by them, and two for the purpose of rehabilitation to allow them to eventually conform to normal societal standards. A nazi war criminal who is in his 80s or 90s fits neither of those criteria in todays society. It was necessary for them to be imprisoned during their era as letting them roam free could spark another world war, but these nazis were operating under the guise of a war and were not committing these abhorrent acts independently and for their own purposes. They were simply operating in a time of war as opposed to a person who commits a murder outside of a war. These war criminals did commit terrible acts,but they are no longer a harm to society because their actions were issued due to a war. A person who murders in peaceful conditions has the ability and/or intent to act upon those instincts again whereas the war criminals are old and operated under a specific guise for their actions and the only purpose for their imprisonment would be to prevent them from causing further harm, which they cannot do in their state physically and because of where the intent of their actions was propagated from i.e war.
I agree with Anil in that , Nazi was criminals are not fit to do any further crime in today's world. If they were improisoned during the time that they were really fit to ignite more crimes, it would be just. To imprison them today would not make that much sense. One because the crimes they committed were controlled by a higher power and maybe some of them were just afraid and the other being that they're old anyway and they don't have that much time left. They've already lived their lives and seen what they wanted and not wanted to see. To punish them now would be unecessary.
I believe that these criminals should still be prosecuted. I believe so solely for the reason that just because they are elderly doesn't excuse their crimes. They still did what they had done, and that should be taken into account, not their age. A 90 year old murderer is no different than a 30 year old murderer. So yes, they should still be prosecuted.
Yes, it is still justified to prosecute elderly Holocaust criminals. The justice system exists to acknowledge, both, the victim and the criminal. The purpose is not for the punishment of the body but of the mind that committed the crime and also the life that never got to live. For as long as his mind and memory is still intact, he is obligated to serve time for his wrongdoings. To let the criminal go without a trial would be to ignore the millions of Jews that suffered at his command. Time and age does not erase the pain nor does it shed the blood off of their hands.
ReplyDeleteI too say an elderly Holocaust criminal should be prosecuted. I also fully agree with Ishrat's statement (which is well said, I might add)especially the lines, "For as long as his mind and memory is still intact, he is obligated to serve time for his wrongdoings. To let the criminal go without a trial would be to ignore the millions of Jews that suffered at his command."
DeleteOnce someone commits a crime they must do the time for it. In this legal system it is imperative criminals pay for their deeds. Age is indeed no excuse. Just because the criminal is elderly, appears benign, and faces impending death does not mean they shouldn't go to jail. As a matter of fact, let them rot in a cold, lonesome cell for their crimes against relatively innocent people.
I'm pretty wishy-washy with this question because I cannot take a stance. At one stand point I would think that, yes they have commit crimes and they should atone for it, but then I also think about the circumstances of Germany those days. In many cases it was kill or be killed, and I would assume it'd be worse for the Nazi party, did all of them really want to kill the mass amount of people they had to kill--is that why they dehumanized the the Jewish so they would not feel too guilty? Then, did they end up feeling guilty and atoning later on with the time realizing their actions? Then there's also the fact that of, most of them are really old they're going to die soon anyways most probably. So I don't know if we should put them in or not because I cannot take a stance.
ReplyDeleteYes they are still worthwhile to get punishment even if they are old. I agree with both of them. As they said, everybody should know that the justice system still exists. Just because they are old doesn't mean they would get away with the harsh behavior to Jews. We all should remember that Laws are equal for everybody regardless race, gender and age. Somebody can come up with It wasn't their fault, Hitler is the one came up with this. But as a matter of fact, Hitler couldn't able to do all of them without their help. Therefore everybody is the same guilty and they should get punishment for these even if they are old. At the same time it would set an example to others that none can get away from the justice system. They always would end up getting punishment for their crimes.
ReplyDeleteYes, as I had stated earlier in class. Age does not excuse the murder of an innocent man. The holocaust criminals deprived people of their life and it is time for them to be deprived of their life. I completely agree with Ishrat's viewpoint where she had stated that not doing a trial of the criminal would only allow all those Jewish victims to die without justice. We would only be ignorant and naive to allow such heinous crimes be slipped away due to age and allow millions of Jews to die in vain.
ReplyDeleteThe hunting for Nazi criminals is like a race against time. As we live in a society where justice can only be brought through relevant documents and living witnesses, it is nearly impossible to bring them to justice. A trial literally does not make any sense anymore. You aren't really bringing 'justice' to these men because they are already old. Many of them are alone and are waiting to die. Isn't the purpose of administrating death penalties to murderers is to stop them from living their lives and regret what they have done? They have already lived their lives and escaped the harsh justice of their crimes, quite frankly, they are not going to learn anything. It is important to realize the gravity of concern of those affected but we cant waver from the principles of law. Otherwise it would lose all credibility.
ReplyDeleteOfcourse it is still worthwhile to prosecute elderly Holocuast criminals. Just becuase they are old does not mean that we should pitty them. I highly doubt that they showed any mercy on anyone tht wa too old or too young when they committed their crimes. They were able to live while everyone else was being condemned for their actions. They deprives jews of living their lives freely, and succeeded in getting away with it. However much of their lives are left should be taken away. No crime should go unpunished. Some people might say that they have to live their whole lives with this and they might feel terrible for doing it, isn't that punishment enough? No it isn't, what if they are proud of the fact they did what they did and happy they got away with it. There is no difference between a crime committed yesterday and a crime commited 70 years ago, punishment needs to be administered. Especially a crime of this historical and racial magnitude. We need to try to serve as much justice for the jews who died by bringing their killers to justice, no matter if it is in 1945 or 2013. They have to pay for their crimes, just like everone else who has ever committed a crime, especially during the Holocuast.
ReplyDeleteNow looking at the whole situation again, I hold a different point of view than I held in class. At first I thought, "what's the point of prosecuting them?" Then, I came to understand that age doesn't erase the multitude of the crime no matter what. Whether it was done 2 years ago or 40 years ago, the objective fact that you have hurt innocent beings on this planet will never change. Especially to the victims, the truth will never change because they know exactly what it is. In the eyes of the law, it is proper for victims to be given justice, and age should not block that justice from being served. Plus, if prosecutors were to not indict the Holocaust criminals, they would be discriminating too which is immoral. Discrimination doesn't solve any problem and is not moral. Figures of law and politics, ought to not discriminate. Therefore, I think it is proper to prosecute the elderly Holocaust criminals.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Fairooz in the changing of perspective from what was held in class. Understanding the whole scenario of the actions taken by a Holocaust criminal does not change the wrong that was done whether it was done 7 years ago or 70 years ago. Murder is not equivalent to the actions that were taken against the Jewish community in that time of history. That elderly Holocaust criminal took part in a genocide that took the live of an estimated 11 million innocent people, with nearly 6 million of Jewish faith. Ishrat's words stating that "time and age does not erase the pain nor does it shed the blood off of their hands" sums up the fact that no matter what happens, history can not be erased, nor the doings of a Holocaust criminal. Therefore, I also believe that it is proper to prosecute an elderly Holocaust criminal.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jasmine along with many other of my classmates. At first when the question was presented to me, whether a man who committed murder at the age of 17 and is now 93 should be prosecuted, I agreed that he should not be prosecuted. However, I have a different perspective after reading the article and truly giving it some thought. A murder is a murder whether it happened 5, 10 or 50 years ago. Time does not erase one’s actions and those who commit a crime must face the consequences sooner or later. Criminals should not be above the law because their crime happened decades ago. So when asked whether it is still worthwhile prosecuting elderly holocaust criminals, it is justified and it should be done. To this day we still have survivors of the holocaust who still remember every aspect of their painful past and they deserve the justice while they can still get it. Holocaust criminals deserve to be prosecuted because they have committed one of the worst crimes in history; they took part in genocide which claimed the lives of millions. If we do not prosecute these ruthless criminals what message does that give? That a crime of such magnitude will be ignored because of time, that’s only forgetting the victims of the Holocaust, which is not right. They were innocent people who were targeted and endured unimaginable terror, the few years left that Nazi war criminals will serve in prison does not come close to the punishment they truly deserve.
ReplyDeleteYes, it is still worthwhile to prosecute elderly Holocaust criminals. Oftentimes, most people think that it is useless to do so because they consider that since the person is old they will not be around much longer and it was a crime that was committed such a long time ago. However, what most fail to acknowledge is that age and time are factors being used as an excuse. Age nor time should be used as an excuse because that does not expunge the pain that resulted from ones actions. As long as the person is still aware of what they have done, they should be obligated to serve the time for their wrongdoings. This is the only way justice will be acknowledged.
ReplyDeleteIt is worthwhile prosecuting the elderly Holocaust criminals. Even though they are really old and are probably going to die soon does not mean they should be given a get out of jail free card. They have committed crimes against humanity, crimes against millions and it is not fair to the ones who suffered the Holocaust to know that the people who had no mercy for them are getting mercy just because of age. The only way to give the people who suffered justice is to punish these criminals. Age is not enough to let these criminals free.
ReplyDeleteimprisonment serves two purposes. One being to separate the criminals from the rest of society to stagnate and halt any further crimes being perpetrated by them, and two for the purpose of rehabilitation to allow them to eventually conform to normal societal standards. A nazi war criminal who is in his 80s or 90s fits neither of those criteria in todays society. It was necessary for them to be imprisoned during their era as letting them roam free could spark another world war, but these nazis were operating under the guise of a war and were not committing these abhorrent acts independently and for their own purposes. They were simply operating in a time of war as opposed to a person who commits a murder outside of a war. These war criminals did commit terrible acts,but they are no longer a harm to society because their actions were issued due to a war. A person who murders in peaceful conditions has the ability and/or intent to act upon those instincts again whereas the war criminals are old and operated under a specific guise for their actions and the only purpose for their imprisonment would be to prevent them from causing further harm, which they cannot do in their state physically and because of where the intent of their actions was propagated from i.e war.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Anil in that , Nazi was criminals are not fit to do any further crime in today's world. If they were improisoned during the time that they were really fit to ignite more crimes, it would be just. To imprison them today would not make that much sense. One because the crimes they committed were controlled by a higher power and maybe some of them were just afraid and the other being that they're old anyway and they don't have that much time left. They've already lived their lives and seen what they wanted and not wanted to see. To punish them now would be unecessary.
ReplyDeleteI believe that these criminals should still be prosecuted. I believe so solely for the reason that just because they are elderly doesn't excuse their crimes. They still did what they had done, and that should be taken into account, not their age. A 90 year old murderer is no different than a 30 year old murderer. So yes, they should still be prosecuted.
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